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April 07, 2008

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Klaus

You make it sound like a Hail Mary pass...

But in all likelihood, Obama is going to win in November, on the back of Iraqi violence in connection with the local elections, and start moving in direction of a pull-out. So why not, indeed.

Helena Cobban

Based on extensive experience of looking at the usefulness of some elections in helping reduce levels of political violence, and the disutility of others-- I would say that what strikes me about this proposal is its apolitical and therefore in the circumstances necessarily anti-political nature. "Elections" do not simply drop from the sky fully organized. They need considerable planning, and an administrative as well as political framework within which they are held. You say nothing about these things!

For starters, who would you propose CALL these elections? No trivial matter. Would you have it be Maliki? (But then, why would he?) Or would you have it be the occupying power. (Oops! busted! It's not supposed to be act8ing as an occupying power any more, is it?)

And then, what would they be ABOUT, and on what basis would voting be organized? Would it be the same old dysfunctional list system? Would the victors in the election end up having any more real ability to GOVERN the country than Maliki has, anyway? Wouldn't the same twin constraints of (a) the reality of the occupying power's overwhelming and overweening presence, and (b)the non-existence, since 2003, of any working levers of national administration, both still be in place?

An election is only going to be helpful if it is ABOUT something that the majority of the relevant constituencies want to see happen, and if it is called and supervised by a body with political legitimacy. Hence, the only even possibly worthwhile national Iraqi elections that I see on the road ahead are ones that are called and conducted under the auspices of a robust, UN-led national reconciliation project.

We also all need to recognize that the very concept of "elections" has gotten a deservedly bad rap in Iraq, in light of the truly horrendous sequelae from the three rushed rounds of elections that were organized by the occupation.

I am, in general, a great fan of the "Institutionalization before Liberalization" approach to post-conflict peacebuilding that is articulated by Roland Paris. It is certainly very relevant in Iraq.

JHM

... the non-existence, since 2003, of any working levers of national administration ...

Well, well, somebody else has noticed the obvious at last! And a surpising somebody it is, not a qualified tertiary educationalist only a ... blogmonger.

The next step would be to wonder WHY there are no effective levers in sight in the former Iraq, or alternatively, HOW it was ingeniously arranged that there shouldn't be any.

Such reflections would lead straight to

But no, there is little point in talking about Step Four when most of the caravan has not reached Step Two.

___

Obviously President Elect Gause was expecting objections from the opposite quarter. He engages in massive polemical preëmption against mainstream invasionites and occupation fans, thinking -- probably quite rightly -- that only they matter enough to argue with.

But he leaves me dissatisfied vicariously on that front, because "some of the objections to early national elections" would almost certainly include "But what about Palestine and Hamás, O President Let-The-Natives-Do-It?"

Happy days.


Anomalous

JHM, I think perhaps you should look up that "blogmonger's" CV.
Other than that of course we're in agreeance.


Anomalous

Guardian UK

A confidential draft agreement covering the future of US forces in Iraq, passed to the Guardian, shows that provision is being made for an open-ended military presence in the country.

The draft strategic framework agreement between the US and Iraqi governments, dated March 7 and marked "secret" and "sensitive", is intended to replace the existing UN mandate and authorises the US to "conduct military operations in Iraq and to detain individuals when necessary for imperative reasons of security" without time limit.

The authorisation is described as "temporary" and the agreement says the US "does not desire permanent bases or a permanent military presence in Iraq". But the absence of a time limit or restrictions on the US and other coalition forces - including the British - in the country means it is likely to be strongly opposed in Iraq and the US.

Iraqi critics point out that the agreement contains no limits on numbers of US forces, the weapons they are able to deploy, their legal status or powers over Iraqi citizens, going far beyond long-term US security agreements with other countries. The agreement is intended to govern the status of the US military and other members of the multinational force.

Following recent clashes between Iraqi troops and Moqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi army in Basra, and threats by the Iraqi government to ban his supporters from regional elections in the autumn, anti-occupation Sadrists and Sunni parties are expected to mount strong opposition in parliament to the agreement, which the US wants to see finalised by the end of July. The UN mandate expires at the end of the year.

One well-placed Iraqi Sunni political source said yesterday: "The feeling in Baghdad is that this agreement is going to be rejected in its current form, particularly after the events of the last couple of weeks. The government is more or less happy with it as it is, but parliament is a different matter."

bb

"The Maliki government is a disaster, but there is no getting rid of it short of national elections."

What evidence is there to suggest that the Maliki government would be defeated in the next elections? In the recent ABC/BBC poll 67% of both Shiites and Kurds expressed confidence in the Iraqi govt and together they represent more nearly 70 per cent of the vote? A majority of Shiites and 68% of Kurds also "approved" of the way Mr Maliki is doing his job?

"The current Sunni Arab representation at the national level is either inept, in that it cannot bring its purported constituency along with any deals it makes (Tariq al-Hashemi and the Iraqi Islamic Party), or pro-insurgency (Adnan al-Dulaimi and his ilk). These guys cannot make any deals that will stick."

If it turns out, as is being reported, that the Sunni parties will support ISCI and the Kurds in passing legislation banning political parties from contesting elections unless they disband their militias, will this be accepted as evidence that national reconciliation has taken place at the top?

"Elections could also ratify politically what we see on the ground: the dissolution of the Unified Iraqi Alliance, the Shi’a amalgam put together by Ayatallah al-Sistani which contested the January and December 2005 elections"

What evidence is there that the UIA will be dissolved before the next elections? What evidence is there that the Sadrists won't be part of the List as they were in 2005? When ever has al Sadr broken with the Shiite establishment? In November 2004 when he quit Najaf? In Jan 2007 when he accepted the Baghdad Security Plan and declared a unilateral ceasefire? In August 2007 when he extended the ceasefire? Less than two weeks ago when he declared another unilateral ceasefire and accepted Iraqi government forces operating in Basrah and Sadr City?

"But part of the reason that Maliki is still prime minister is that the Bush Administration stood against earlier efforts to put together an alternative parliamentary majority. Maliki has basically lost, or nearly lost, his parliamentary majority. In any normal parliamentary system, his government would have already fallen."

How so? At what point did the government's opponents have the numbers - ie an absolute majority of the 275 member parliament - to topple the government? Isn't it the case that that the Maliki coalition can only be toppled if either Kurdish bloc or the ISCI -even without the Sadrists - join the opposition and all the opposition parties are united?

Was it ever a serious proposition that the Sadrists and the Sunni parties would have made common cause in 2006 at a time when the Mahdi army was rounding up thousands of military aged Sunnis in Baghdad and executing them?

"The Bush Administration just needs to make it clear that it is adopting a real “hands-off” position and then let events take their course."

Indeed and about time?! Would it help if the Democrats did the same?

Helena Cobban:

"Elections" do not simply drop from the sky fully organized. They need considerable planning, and an administrative as well as political framework within which they are held. You say nothing about these things!"

Perhaps Professor Gause recalls the two elections and the constitutional referendum the Iraqis organised perfectly competently in 2005 despite a raging insurgency trying to stop them?

“For starters, who would you propose CALL these elections? “

Is there any reason why the elections wouldn’t be called according to Iraqi law?

"And then, what would they be ABOUT,and on what basis would voting be organized?"

Would they be about electing a new government and might the basis of voting be decided by the Iraqi parliament according to Iraqi law?

"An election is only going to be helpful if it is ABOUT something that the majority of the relevant constituencies want to see happen, and if it is called and supervised by a body with political legitimacy. Hence, the only even possibly worthwhile national Iraqi elections that I see on the road ahead are ones that are called and conducted under the auspices of a robust, UN-led national reconciliation project."

Is it proposed that the UN over-ride the Iraqi constitution voted in by a majority of 80% in a 10,000,000 turn out in a referendum supervised by the UN? If so, how would the UN impose this against the wishes of a sovereign member state?

"(b)the non-existence, since 2003, of any working levers of national administration, both still be in place?"

Has Iraq been in a state of anarchy since 2003?

"We also all need to recognize that the very concept of "elections" has gotten a deservedly bad rap in Iraq, in light of the truly horrendous sequelae from the three rushed rounds of elections that were organized by the occupation."

Was the horrendous sequelae the result of a raging insurgency, led by a small demographic minority, bent on retaking power from the democratically elected majority government? Is the situation different now that the insurgency is no longer raging and the Sunnis are seeking to join the political process instead of trying to overthrow the government?

"I am, in general, a great fan of the "Institutionalization before Liberalization" approach to post-conflict peacebuilding that is articulated by Roland Paris. It is certainly very relevant in Iraq."

Is it proposed to remove the democratic Iraqi constitution and the democratically elected government of Iraq and establish new/different institutions before "liberalisation" takes place? If so, what institutions? The Iraqi legal system? The free media?

"The Maliki government is a disaster, but there is no getting rid of it short of national elections."

What evidence is there to suggest that the Maliki government would be defeated in the next elections? In the recent ABC/BBC poll 67% of both Shiites and Kurds expressed confidence in the Iraqi govt and together they represent more nearly 70 per cent of the vote? A majority of Shiites and 68% of Kurds also "approved" of the way Mr Maliki is doing his job?

"The current Sunni Arab representation at the national level is either inept, in that it cannot bring its purported constituency along with any deals it makes (Tariq al-Hashemi and the Iraqi Islamic Party), or pro-insurgency (Adnan al-Dulaimi and his ilk). These guys cannot make any deals that will stick."

If it turns out, as is being reported, that the Sunni parties will support ISCI and the Kurds in passing legislation banning political parties from contesting elections unless they disband the militias, will this be accepted as evidence that national reconciliation has taken place at the top?

"Elections could also ratify politically what we see on the ground: the dissolution of the Unified Iraqi Alliance, the Shi’a amalgam put together by Ayatallah al-Sistani which contested the January and December 2005 elections"

What evidence is there that the UIA will be dissolved before the next elections? What evidence is there that the Sadrists won't be part of the List as they were in 2005? When ever has al Sadr broken with the Shiite establishment?

"But part of the reason that Maliki is still prime minister is that the Bush Administration stood against earlier efforts to put together an alternative parliamentary majority. Maliki has basically lost, or nearly lost, his parliamentary majority. In any normal parliamentary system, his government would have already fallen."

How so? At what point did the government's opponents have the numbers - ie an absolute majority of the 275 member parliament - to topple the government? Isn't it the case that that the Maliki coalition can only be toppled if either Kurdish bloc or the ISCI - even without the Sadrists - join the opposition and all the opposition parties are united?

And was it ever a serious proposition that the Sadrists and the Sunni parties would have made common cause at a time when the Mahdi army was rounding up thousands of military aged Sunnis in Baghdad and executing them?

"The Bush Administration just needs to make it clear that it is adopting a real “hands-off” position and then let events take their course."

Indeed and about time?!

Helena Cobban:

"Elections" do not simply drop from the sky fully organized. They need considerable planning, and an administrative as well as political framework within which they are held. You say nothing about these things!"

Perhaps Professor Gause recalls the two elections and the constitutional referendum the Iraqis organised perfectly competently in 2005 despite a raging insurgency trying to stop them?

“For starters, who would you propose CALL these elections? “

Is there any reason why the elections wouldn’t be called according to Iraqi law?

"And then, what would they be ABOUT,and on what basis would voting be organized?"

Would they be about electing a new government and might the basis of voting be decided by the Iraqi parliament according to Iraqi law?

"An election is only going to be helpful if it is ABOUT something that the majority of the relevant constituencies want to see happen, and if it is called and supervised by a body with political legitimacy. Hence, the only even possibly worthwhile national Iraqi elections that I see on the road ahead are ones that are called and conducted under the auspices of a robust, UN-led national reconciliation project."

Is the suggestion that the UN over-ride the Iraqi constitution voted in by a majority of 80% in a 10,000,000 turn out? How would the UN impose this against the wishes of a sovereign member state?

"(b)the non-existence, since 2003, of any working levers of national administration, both still be in place?"

Has Iraq been in a state of anarchy since 2003?

"We also all need to recognize that the very concept of "elections" has gotten a deservedly bad rap in Iraq, in light of the truly horrendous sequelae from the three rushed rounds of elections that were organized by the occupation."

Was the horrendous sequelae the result of a raging insurgency, led by a small demographic minority , bent on taking power from the democratically elected majority government? Does it change the situation for the better now that the insurgency is no longer raging and the Sunnis are seeking to join the political process instead of trying to overthrow the government?

Helena Cobban

Bb:

How would the UN impose this against the wishes of a sovereign member state?

I believe your view of "sovereignty" must be very different from mine... But I did fail to specify in my earlier comment that I would envisage these UN-sponsored elections taking place within the context of a broader UN-convened negotiation among all relevant countries over the modalities of a rapid withdrawal of all foreign troops from the country.

In that context it is possible that the Iraqi political movements could all come to an internal governance agreement on their own, though they might ask for some outside help. And the UN might (or might not) be the most appropriate body to provide that. I was simply describing one possible way these thorny remaining issues of internal governance might be decided.

The broader (international) negotiation is the key to righting the currently extremely corrupted sovereignty status of the country. It is very urgent indeed. As a US citizen, I have every right and interest to speak up on this matter and to bring to an end my country's harmful prolongation of its occupation of Iraq. As longtime readers of my blog and my other writings will know, I have always held it is up to the Iraqis how they choose to govern themselves. Hence my suggestion that they might want to have some help from the UN in convening the necessary negotiation is only that-- a suggestion.

Whether Iraqis would want to continue to be governed by a Constitution drafted by foreigners and put into force under the rule of foreign occupiers is up to them.

Gause shows his blindness to these sovereignty-related issues throughout his presentation, which simply assumes it is the right of the US to determine when and how Iraqis have elections. How's that again?

bb

Helena:

I understand why you don't regard the present Iraqi government as legitimate. But, however unpalatable to you and others, it was lawfully elected according to a constitution drafted and negotiated by Iraqis, and approved by an 80 per cent majority in a 10 million vote? This acceptance of the constitution was, perhaps not surprisingly, ratified in the subsequent general election when 70% of the eligible voters turned out.

Even if you were correct in saying the constitution was drafted by foreigners and put into force by foreign occupiers, the endorsement of the referenda and election are on the record for all to see.

The powers of the Iraqi government and the executive are notably circumscribed by the constitution in order to ensure power sharing. There has been example upon example in recent months of cabinet decisions having to be negotiated through the Iraqi Parliament in a manner that must be almost beyond the comprehension of the citizens of the neighbouring Arab countries?

For this, the Iraqis only seem to earn derision or dismissal from western commentators. The implication they would be incapable of organising elections was really quite astonishing. Would that the Egyptians, for instance, had such a constitution, such a voting system and such elections? And such a free media!

bb

"Gause shows his blindness to these sovereignty-related issues throughout his presentation, which simply assumes it is the right of the US to determine when and how Iraqis have elections. How's that again?"

At least this is an improvement on prominent Democrats demanding that Iraq be divided into three regardless of the views of its citizens!

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