« QS: Arab Decision 2007 | Main | Al-Dhari: pre-emptive strike against Baker? »

November 16, 2006

Comments

Abu Sinan

I find it very interesting that George Bush is cited more than anyone, even the Prophet Mohammed.

JR786

Two things caught my attention. On page 6 the authors state that Salafism "is ideologically akin to the medieval Puritan movement in England and the United States". Whatever other merit it may have as an analogy, locating Puritanism in the Middle Ages is a bit of poor scholarship at best.

More troubling is the following:

Finally, a word about 'moderate' Muslims. The measure of moderation depends on what type of standard you use. If by 'moderate' one means the renouncement of violence in the achievement of political goals, then the majority of Salafis are moderate. But if by 'moderate' one means the acceptance of secularism, capitalism, democracy, gender equality and a committment to religous pluralism, then the Salafis would be extremists on all counts. (11)

W-llahi, then i'm an extremist on at least one count - capitalism (total, unwavering, Gatesian acceptance?). The normative presentation of these categories of moderation forces me to conclude that I don't even know one perfectly moderate Muslim, nor can I positively assert that any exists. Furthermore, while the authors rightly point out that Jihadists don't allow for any deviation in thought, they don't seem to either. Similarly, they seem to have declared that the Bush Administration is extremist as well since it has embraced violence and war as the means for advancing political goals.

In the tradition of the Prophet, West Point has spoken to its target audience according to the level of its understanding and confirmed to them what they already knew - there are no moderate Muslims.

the aardvark

JR - while I was underwhelmed by the report's recommendations, I actually didn't read that part the way you did. I took it more as a call for definitional precision - what do we, and should we, mean when we talk about "moderation." I didn't read this as their endorsement of the broader definition, which would make it impossible to draw useful distinctions within the small jihadist subgroup they were studying. And note that the report was quite careful to place the jihadists as a small subset of the much wider Islamist and Muslim communities - not at all equating those circles.

Tiffany Campbell

I have just finished reading the Executive Summary of the "Atlas" and I have to admit I am quite dismayed. To give an overarching and basically useless statement like" Since Western governments lack credibilty in the Muslim world, they should pursue these efforts indirectly," seems almost insulting at the worst and useless at best. And what does "pursuing efforts indirectly" do for our credibilty?

"Convince Jihadi intellectuals who are truly influential to renounce certain tactics"? When this happens, like after the tragedy in Amman, it is a spontaneous incident. And I can't imagine what kind of 'indirect methods' it would take to convince Al-Qadahwari to risk his credibilty (power base) to renounce certain Jihadi tactics.

I would not dare to ask if an average Iraqi, after living in a war torn country for 4 years, with life a life filled with tragedy and uncertainty, if he would want something like the Talaban for a government, Because, just as it happened in Afghanistan, I am sure the answer would be, "if it would stop the fighting and lend some stability, yes".

"The Jihadi Message is so weak and unappealing that they have to use violence to persaude people." Not to overgeneralize cultural attributes, but the use of force, power and violence as persuasion is something that has historical resonance in most Arab cultures, especially Iraq. The use of violence to defend one's honor is expected. This statement, to me, seems extremely culturally unaware.

Last but not least: "Qutbism" just doesn't have a good ring to it.

The comments to this entry are closed.

Enter your email address:

Delivered by FeedBurner

Blog powered by Typepad
Analytics